A student forum for discussing the social forces and resulting consequences on family and kinship change in Kuwait. Our discussion should consider the effects of new technologies, geopolitical relations and the market pressures of the global Era on the experience of intimacy and intimate relations.
Monday, March 1, 2010
"Blood" Lines and National Belonging
How does family determine citizenship in Kuwait? Why is the father's side more important than the mother? What makes the family name so important to national identity? Do you agree or should matters change?
In Kuwait, the citizenship is determined based on the father's Nationality. If the father is Kuwaiti, the children are Kuwaitis even if the mother is non-Kuwaiti; however, if the father is Lebanese, the children are Lebanese even if their mother is Kuwaiti. In the law, the children who their mother is Kuwaiti, they can be Kuwaiti just in case their father dies or the parents divorced without getting back again. That's happened because the children carries their father's name in Kuwait's law as an Islamic country. The children have their father's name, so that they can have his nationality. Of course, the name is so important, so that the people can know who is your family and who is your father since it's so important to know the family in Kuwait. The family in Kuwait and its ancestors are so important. I agree with that because it's our Kuwaiti culture. And also in Islam, the children should carry their father's name.
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In Kuwait they determin citizenship based on the nationality of their father, whether he's a Kuwaiti or not. If the Father is not Kuwaiti his son or daughter won't receive the Kuwaiti citizenship, if he's Kuwaiti his son or daughter will receive the Kuwaiti citizanship and be treated as a normal Kuwaiti citizen even if their mother is not Kuwaiti. In Kuwait according to the citizenship,the father's side is more important than the mother's side, I think because in Kuwait it is still a patrilineal society that still supports the idea of men being the main member of a family or that they handle more responsibility than woman.We get our citizenship from the father's side and also his name and last name. The family name is important because they represent the history of Kuwait, Kuwaiti people before are known by their last name and famous for it, last names units Kuwaiti people and makes them related in a way, each family knows the other family maybe because they knew his/her grandfather, because of the last name. I agree with that because this rule is here when we were born and it's here now and we are used to it being on the father's side, it may causes difficulties when it changes.
I realize that after not being the first it’s really hard to contribute in a way that shows that I am not being redundant about the topic at hand. Anyways, from obvious observations, and ingrained traditions, in Kuwait citizenship not only means you are a member of the country, you are also entitled to a series of benefits, be it educationally, medically, financially etc. It is valuable to note that within Kuwait, there are types of citizen who acquire different level of citizenship according to generation. If you are a member of first generation you are considered to be one pure Kuwaiti…That is not to say that if you have either level you are not Kuwaiti, but it just says a little about what posts in life you acquire later on, and where you are able to work and what not…It is all a very complicated matter that cannot be taken slightly or understood through merely observing. Pertaining to the second part of the question, it might seem that the father’s side holds much importance than that of the mother only because he transmits his last name to the children, and children can be Kuwaiti only after the father. However, as times change, it is becoming more evident that the mother will also be capable of transmitting her Kuwaiti nationality onto her children…
Kuwaitis are always concerned with the family name, and most importantly the origin of the family itself. The last name of many Kuwaiti families reveals much background information that any historical textbooks could have. Kuwait is made of people that have moved from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, and the occupied land. So when a person says he comes from this al-X family, you right away categorize him, then you move on to the next distinction, which is what religious sect al-X belongs to. So, a family name reveals much information, and that is why people give it so much importance. Another thing that we discussed in class that relates to my next point is, if a women marries a shia her children will then be followers of that sect, this is clear that Kuwait follows a patrilineal system.
Honestly, it really doesn’t matter if I think it should change or not, I think people need to really stop focusing on minor details, and look at the bigger picture. After all, we all are pretty much the same at the end of the day…And really does a piece of paper with numbers and your name stating that you belong to a country really mean anything…Does that make you a better person? Faye 6608
As an Egyptian migrate living in Kuwait, I believe that the Egyptian families determine citizenship based upon their heritage belonging and nationality. This is because although there are several Egyptians born in Kuwait, still they are considered to be as Egyptians due to their Egyptian heritage identity. Not only have that, but Egyptians who are born in Kuwait do not get the Kuwaiti nationality. So the Egyptian citizenship is not based on the place of birth as much as it’s a family heritage.
Under the context of migrate Egyptian family, fathers are usually perceived as the bread winners. On contrary, in some cases mothers would work as well and be the main bread winners of the family. There is a cultural idea that the father is the source of the family’s financial support and hence, the back bone of the family. The mother’s role is to support the father psychologically and emotionally and in some cases financially, to maintain a well-off family. In addition, the Egyptian society is based upon a patrilineal family system, which mainly highlights the role of the father much more than the mother. Still, in most of the cases, the mother usually influences the father and her significance comes from her role at home through her support and love to her husband and children.
The family name is important in several places at Egypt. These places would be small villages, urban cities, and districts based upon tribal families. Still, family names wouldn’t represent national identity, in fact, it represents social status. Rather than that, family names are not essential for an Egyptian national identity. The importance for an Egyptian national identity comes from the nationalistic belonging to the country.
From my opinion, the way mothers are perceived in the Egyptian community needs to be changed. The cultural idea of the mother being only there for her husband and children and supporting her husband in every aspect is unfair. I believe that there should be a cultural equality between the mother and father when it comes to defining their roles. With the rise of unemployment, migration, and poverty in Egypt, mothers tend to work equally as fathers, and sometimes even more. Therefore, there should be equal expectations from the father and mother. The culture should also encourage the father’s psychological and emotional support to the mothers. As well, the culture should encourage the father’s cooperation at the household activities and not perceive it as against masculinity.
In Kuwait the citizenship of the children is determined by the father's citizenship. if the father is Kuwaiti, the children will be Kuwaiti citizens, regardless of what the nationality and citizenship of their mother is. But if the mother was Kuwaiti and the father wasn’t, the children won’t get the citizenship That is because according to Islam the children should carry the father's name and family name, not the mother's. In Kuwait, this family name alone makes a person a "Kuwaiti".
Carrying the father's name then makes the father's side of the family more important than the mothers. Having the father’s name makes you part of their lineage and obliged to follow their rules and regulations. Also, by law if the father passes away, his brother is required to financially and socially support them. For example, without his consent, his brother’s daughter cannot get married. In many cases for example a girl would say to a man. "you have no right to tell me what to do, you’re not my father, brother, husband , or "wild Ami", wild ami means the son of my father's brother. This shows that the members of the father's side have more say and more rights on an individual. A girl wouldn’t say "wild Khaly" which means the son of my mother's brother because the “wild khal” may carry a different family name.
The family name in general, being the mother's or father's family name is important. A man in search of a wife would look for certain family names that are within his social status. Also, if a person is considering marriage, sometimes if the girl or the boy is from a familiar family name, but the mother is not, the person would sometimes think twice about getting married to him/her or disregard the idea completely.
Family names as you can see are very important to the Kuwaiti culture. Kuwaiti people tend to divide themselves in several categories. There are the "Pure" "original" Kuwaitis who were the first settlers in Kuwait during the late 18th century, and the Kuwaitis who immigrated after that. The first settlers see themselves as the REAL Kuwaitis, and marriage outside their families and tribes is something that should not be considered. Kuwait is a tribal society and great emphasis is put on the tribes and family names. I believe that the family names are important to a certain extent. By the family name, we are able to determine the person’s tribe and origin. To Kuwaitis, the family name DEFINES the person; the family name is what makes the person Kuwaiti not the citizenship. No matter who receives the citizenship, if he is not from any of the Kuwaiti families, he will be considered a foreigner in the eyes of the society. Because Kuwait is a society based on family names, giving the citizenship for children from a non Kuwaiti man is a very sensitive matter. Those children will carry his family name, and being Kuwaiti, they will add their family name into the Kuwaiti families’ category.
In Kuwait, ones citizenship is determined by the fathers nationality as they carry the family name and determines their children nationality whereas a mother does not. For example if a father is Kuwaiti and marries a non Kuwaiti his children are considered Kuwaitis, however, when it the other way round if a Kuwaiti woman marries a non Kuwaiti her children will not be considered Kuwaitis, which I do not see the logic in it, a family name is different than nationality, it is unfair that the children do not get any rights because their father is non Kuwaiti, but unfortunately thats how things are here. In Kuwait many view and often judge others according to ones family name its very unfortunate how people see things that way as it does not mean one belongs to a good family they are good person. I personally do not agree with this mentality as i believe that everyone is born equal you may think your superior due to your family name or nationality but the reality is once you die your nothing and your just like everybody else.
According to the Islamic laws, the children carry the last name and the citizenship of their father. If the father is Kuwaiti, then the kids automatically get the same citizenship, no matter what nationality their mother carries. In some cases if the woman is Kuwaiti and the husband is Lebanese then the kids get the Lebanese nationality. As the children carry the name of the father, the father’s side automatically becomes more important. Also because the father is the authoritative figure in the family, he is the one that supports the family financially and makes the decision in the house. It is always known that the father’s side is given much more value and importance than the mother’s side. The common reasons are because the kids have their father’s last name and their citizenship is attained from their father. Here in Kuwait national identity is given through family name, if you ask any the citizens for their last name, we easily come to know if they are originally Kuwaiti or not. By original Kuwaiti I mean, if their roots are from Kuwait, There are many Kuwaiti families that reside here are not originally Kuwaiti but are either from Iran, Saudi Arabia or other Arab countries. Families in Kuwait believe in the national identity and so do I to some extent. Unusually families here in Kuwait set marriages within their tribes, or families of their own social status. The families that are originally Kuwaiti would want their kids to get married to the family who also are originally Kuwaiti. It depends on the families and the mentality they carry. But living in the society, I can see how important it is to us the Arabs to make sure that we marry within the boundaries of our traditions. Especially girls are expected to choose or marry someone within the family or someone who carries the equal family status in the society. Girls are not preferred to marry outside the clan. This is a tradition that has been going on for a very long time and is difficult to change or asked questions about. I feel people have set minds about national identity. It’s the family name that speaks. Sarah Juma 2714
Everybody is born into a family, Simply a family could represent a society in many places. Such as the Middle East, and in Kuwait. Families are very important in Kuwait, one of the major factors of family importance in Kuwait is that we have been taught many things in my opinion about our ancestors which are part of our hertiage. By that we learn how to appreciate what we have and what we have learned, w then pass these traditions on the next generation. In Kuwait,a persons citizenship is determined by the fathers nationality. Whereas, in the other hand, the mother does not determine the childrens nationality. For example if a father is Kuwaiti and marries a Kuwaiti or non Kuwaiti his children are considered Kuwaitis. However, when it comes to a Kuwaiti woman marries a non Kuwaiti her children will not be considered Kuwaitis, but are considered to whatever the fathers nationality. Middle East and Kuwait families depend mainly on the male character in the family which is the father, which is known as the family backbone. He is in charge of mostly everything. However the mother is known as a houswife and a care taker which consists in raising the children and taking care of the household. Now a days families are trying to be the "perfect picture family" but on the inside they have so many problems that they refuse to talk about. The reason because the Kuwaiti families are very secretive and over protective about the honor of the family. This answers why Kuwaiti and in addition to the Middle Eastern family are resistant towards improvement.
All countries “be it secular of a theoretic state” have some criteria on which citizenship and national belonging is built upon, and our country is no different. The only difference is Kuwaiti government seems to be keen on contradicting itself. In our country one is considered a Kuwait citizen if 1) s/he is born to a Kuwait father. 2) has ancestors who resided in Kuwait prior to 1921. 3) is born in Kuwait to unknown parents. So the government will grant the citizenship on the on the basis on bloodline of father’s, history of residence or national belonging. Sounds good so far. However, ironically if you come from a Kuwaiti mother and non-kuwaiti father then you are a foreigner. The Kuwait society has reasoning behind this. Children belong to the father line of decent. This rationale has both a religious and traditional connotation. In the Shria law the children carry the father last name (despite having equal rights and responsibilities towards them). So the slafist took upon themselves again to explain decipher our religion to us. They said that this means that children belong to the father, they inherit the “religion”, the name and of course the nationality. First let me make clear that there is no such thing as “inheriting religion” in Islam. Second in the prophet days “that they are calling to go back to” people identified themselves by the father line but took pride in their mother lineage as well. As for the traditional aspect of it is more complicated. In Kuwait the family name carries a lot of weight. Legally al Kuwaitis are treated equally. However in a closer look, one can see that in a “relatively” tribal society such as Kuwait, the name will enclose more than just letters. The family name is what determines one “origin” and sect and class and new addition to those Kuwait families is seen as threat that will endanger the texture of the Kuwaiti community. On those grounds most Kuwaitis were apprehensive about “nationalizing” the children of Kuwait mothers. Of course I find this law stupid and sexiest. If Kuwaitis are so worried about changing their precious community, then why are they nationalizing Egyptian, Syrian and American women marrying Kuwait men? If more ridiculous id that if Kuwaiti mothers married non-Kuwaitis then the children will gain nationality as soon as the father dies or divorces the mother. You know, because despite having the crime of carrying a non-Kuwait name and having being only 50% Kuwait will change automatically as soon “foreign dad” is out of the picture. Our government officials have of course based that law on their observation of the growing sense of nationalism in children that magically only appears when their Lebanese father is away. The sense of belonging to a country is not determined by the blood chromosomes, nor is it limited by certain family names. Children are not more of their father than mothers as they claim “unless he managed to get himself pregnant”. Mothers in our society are seen are caretaker and are suppose to offer emotional support, however her children must take the father’s permission before making major decisions. Comforting to know; nevertheless that young women and men are speaking out against that law and realizing that what makes Kuwaitis goes deeper that.
Kuwait follows the Patrileneal society where men have been leading the social order for a long time, and the system where national individuality is given based on their fathers name. Historically Kuwait is a tribal state where families get married within their tribes. Since Kuwait is a closed small society, giving levels of citizenship within the Kuwaiti population is important according to welfare of the society .The surname of families is recognized eminently within the society where one can easily distinguish which families belong to the pure original Kuwaiti breed and which have migrated and hence adapted the national identity of being a citizen of Kuwait.
The futurists, economists and socialists however have their own theories about Kuwaiti society changing after a specific period of time where globalization will come handier within the culture and the women start playing an even vital role within the society. This is then where these rules and regulations might not carry much value in the near future. Women are already stepping up the ladder and becoming active in various ways (for instance, 3 women have been elected in the parliament filled with male dominance, and women being able to vote in Kuwait).
Overall in my opinion, Kuwait has based the eccentricity of once nationality recognized by the name of their father and it has been like this since forever, so why change it? Personally, I feel choice could be given in the near future whether he / she wants to be associated with the matrilineal or patrileaneal side. Other than that, this classification sounds appropriate. Clearly , I am not implying that mothers don’t play an imperative role, in fact, they are the ones that embrace the family together but when we look at the Islamic / Arabic culture and tradition , there doesn’t seem much point to brake it by revolutionise the entire process.
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Belonging to a specific home is important, but what determines this membership? Is it blood or birth in this country or the membership will comes after living in this country for a specific period or by marrying a citizen you will be a citizen too? Countries differed in the answer to this question. several countries have established some rules for granting citizenship to non-citizens, some of those countries have established a limited period the persons must live on its soil to obtain the citizenship, moreover other countries allowed non-citizen to obtain citizenship if they are married to a citizen, and other countries had put a law granting citizenship to any child born on its soil, but All countries agreed that nationality is essentially dependents on the blood. To become a Kuwaiti citizen you have to be a son of a Kuwaiti citizen and not from a foreigner, even if the mother was of another nationality. If the mother is a Kuwaiti citizen and she is married to a non-Kuwaiti man, the sons do not get citizenship, but in case of divorce is granted citizenship, depending on the nationality of the mother. So citizenship in Kuwait depends on blood. Kuwaiti society is a patriarchal society that follows the nationality of the father, children follows their father nationality not their mother, so if the mother is non-Kuwaiti that will not effect on the children. If a man gets married to a non-Kuwaiti woman she will be a citizen because she follows her husband nationality, but if a Kuwaiti woman gets married to non-Kuwaiti he will not have the Kuwaiti nationality. As I said before children follows their father's nationality, but they can have the Kuwaiti nationality in one case, if their parents get divorce. Just for being a Kuwaiti citizen you will be provided with free medical care, free education, marriage loan, a house and a job. Family name is very important in the Kuwaiti community; it will provide you with the access to particular social class, and it is mater is you have a specific family name because people in Kuwait doesn't looks for who you are but who is your family and which social class does you presents. Some people may see that the policy of the Kuwaiti government is not fair, but it is fair for me because it is natural to get excited over his father more than mother because as we know that fathers is ideal for us, if we gave the non-Kuwaiti a Kuwaiti nationality, his loyalty may remain for the nationality of his origin and if there is a war between Kuwait and the country of his father it is possible that he will stand on the side of a hostile state. I also believe that this resolution is not only a political but the Kuwaiti government had conceder the importance of the family name. In my opinion, Kuwait nationality must be based on the blood only for the benefit of the country, the society and for the person also.
In kuwait, like many other arab countries, societies are patrilineal. Children take after their fathers. This means that if the dad is muslim the child automatically becomes muslim. If the father is of Kuwaiti citizenship, the child in turn is Kuwaiti.
In my opinion, the father's side is not more important than the mother's. I think it depends on the specific family. The father's side is used to trace people from one generation to the next but it does not necessarily mean they are more important.
In the past, marrying into a good family was much more important than now. Presently, families are extremely more lenient then how they used to be. Families of a certain class and origin did not accept their children to marry outside of their class.
It was easier for the men to marry from a lower class as their wife and children would follow and take his name, but for a child it was virtually impossible.
The most original the family is, that is to say the more they originated from kuwait, the more the sense of national identity. Families that moved to kuwait recently are the ones that arent always married into whereas families that have been here for generations are the ones that are sought after.
I somewhat agree. To a certain degree at least. Because when you marry to far away from the family's social status and class there will no doubt be clashes between both sides which is not really healthy for either.
To acquire Kuwaiti citizenship there is a set criteria that must be met. The Father must be Kuwaiti in order for the children to become Kuwaiti citizens too. In my case, my dad is Kuwaiti and my mom is Finnish, so I am Kuwaiti. In contrast, I have a friend who is half Kuwaiti just like me; however his dad is Iranian so he is not considered Kuwaiti according to the Government. It does seem unfair if you look at it from an outsider’s perspective, although it does have some sort of rationality behind it, as some of my class mates have stated. Another interesting twist to this matter is that a foreign woman who is married to a Kuwaiti man for a certain period of time is eligible to apply for Kuwaiti citizenship, but this does not work the other way round (as far as i know). In my experience with mixed nationalities, the children usually tend to take after their fathers nationality rather than their mothers, although this is not always the case. I do see it as unfair for kids with Kuwaiti mothers, because it seems like the government does not accept them as one of them, so how can they expect these kids to remain loyal to the country when they are not even recognized as part of it.
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In Kuwait, the citizenship is determined based on the father's Nationality. If the father is Kuwaiti, the children are Kuwaitis even if the mother is non-Kuwaiti; however, if the father is Lebanese, the children are Lebanese even if their mother is Kuwaiti. In the law, the children who their mother is Kuwaiti, they can be Kuwaiti just in case their father dies or the parents divorced without getting back again. That's happened because the children carries their father's name in Kuwait's law as an Islamic country. The children have their father's name, so that they can have his nationality. Of course, the name is so important, so that the people can know who is your family and who is your father since it's so important to know the family in Kuwait. The family in Kuwait and its ancestors are so important. I agree with that because it's our Kuwaiti culture. And also in Islam, the children should carry their father's name.
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In Kuwait they determin citizenship based on the nationality of their father, whether he's a Kuwaiti or not. If the Father is not Kuwaiti his son or daughter won't receive the Kuwaiti citizenship, if he's Kuwaiti his son or daughter will receive the Kuwaiti citizanship and be treated as a normal Kuwaiti citizen even if their mother is not Kuwaiti. In Kuwait according to the citizenship,the father's side is more important than the mother's side, I think because in Kuwait it is still a patrilineal society that still supports the idea of men being the main member of a family or that they handle more responsibility than woman.We get our citizenship from the father's side and also his name and last name. The family name is important because they represent the history of Kuwait, Kuwaiti people before are known by their last name and famous for it, last names units Kuwaiti people and makes them related in a way, each family knows the other family maybe because they knew his/her grandfather, because of the last name. I agree with that because this rule is here when we were born and it's here now and we are used to it being on the father's side, it may causes difficulties when it changes.
ReplyDeleteI realize that after not being the first it’s really hard to contribute in a way that shows that I am not being redundant about the topic at hand. Anyways, from obvious observations, and ingrained traditions, in Kuwait citizenship not only means you are a member of the country, you are also entitled to a series of benefits, be it educationally, medically, financially etc. It is valuable to note that within Kuwait, there are types of citizen who acquire different level of citizenship according to generation. If you are a member of first generation you are considered to be one pure Kuwaiti…That is not to say that if you have either level you are not Kuwaiti, but it just says a little about what posts in life you acquire later on, and where you are able to work and what not…It is all a very complicated matter that cannot be taken slightly or understood through merely observing. Pertaining to the second part of the question, it might seem that the father’s side holds much importance than that of the mother only because he transmits his last name to the children, and children can be Kuwaiti only after the father. However, as times change, it is becoming more evident that the mother will also be capable of transmitting her Kuwaiti nationality onto her children…
ReplyDeleteKuwaitis are always concerned with the family name, and most importantly the origin of the family itself. The last name of many Kuwaiti families reveals much background information that any historical textbooks could have. Kuwait is made of people that have moved from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, and the occupied land. So when a person says he comes from this al-X family, you right away categorize him, then you move on to the next distinction, which is what religious sect al-X belongs to. So, a family name reveals much information, and that is why people give it so much importance. Another thing that we discussed in class that relates to my next point is, if a women marries a shia her children will then be followers of that sect, this is clear that Kuwait follows a patrilineal system.
Honestly, it really doesn’t matter if I think it should change or not, I think people need to really stop focusing on minor details, and look at the bigger picture. After all, we all are pretty much the same at the end of the day…And really does a piece of paper with numbers and your name stating that you belong to a country really mean anything…Does that make you a better person?
Faye 6608
As an Egyptian migrate living in Kuwait, I believe that the Egyptian families determine citizenship based upon their heritage belonging and nationality. This is because although there are several Egyptians born in Kuwait, still they are considered to be as Egyptians due to their Egyptian heritage identity. Not only have that, but Egyptians who are born in Kuwait do not get the Kuwaiti nationality. So the Egyptian citizenship is not based on the place of birth as much as it’s a family heritage.
ReplyDeleteUnder the context of migrate Egyptian family, fathers are usually perceived as the bread winners. On contrary, in some cases mothers would work as well and be the main bread winners of the family. There is a cultural idea that the father is the source of the family’s financial support and hence, the back bone of the family. The mother’s role is to support the father psychologically and emotionally and in some cases financially, to maintain a well-off family. In addition, the Egyptian society is based upon a patrilineal family system, which mainly highlights the role of the father much more than the mother. Still, in most of the cases, the mother usually influences the father and her significance comes from her role at home through her support and love to her husband and children.
The family name is important in several places at Egypt. These places would be small villages, urban cities, and districts based upon tribal families. Still, family names wouldn’t represent national identity, in fact, it represents social status. Rather than that, family names are not essential for an Egyptian national identity. The importance for an Egyptian national identity comes from the nationalistic belonging to the country.
From my opinion, the way mothers are perceived in the Egyptian community needs to be changed. The cultural idea of the mother being only there for her husband and children and supporting her husband in every aspect is unfair. I believe that there should be a cultural equality between the mother and father when it comes to defining their roles. With the rise of unemployment, migration, and poverty in Egypt, mothers tend to work equally as fathers, and sometimes even more. Therefore, there should be equal expectations from the father and mother. The culture should also encourage the father’s psychological and emotional support to the mothers. As well, the culture should encourage the father’s cooperation at the household activities and not perceive it as against masculinity.
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ReplyDeleteIn Kuwait the citizenship of the children is determined by the father's citizenship. if the father is Kuwaiti, the children will be Kuwaiti citizens, regardless of what the nationality and citizenship of their mother is. But if the mother was Kuwaiti and the father wasn’t, the children won’t get the citizenship That is because according to Islam the children should carry the father's name and family name, not the mother's. In Kuwait, this family name alone makes a person a "Kuwaiti".
ReplyDeleteCarrying the father's name then makes the father's side of the family more important than the mothers. Having the father’s name makes you part of their lineage and obliged to follow their rules and regulations. Also, by law if the father passes away, his brother is required to financially and socially support them. For example, without his consent, his brother’s daughter cannot get married. In many cases for example a girl would say to a man. "you have no right to tell me what to do, you’re not my father, brother, husband , or "wild Ami", wild ami means the son of my father's brother. This shows that the members of the father's side have more say and more rights on an individual. A girl wouldn’t say "wild Khaly" which means the son of my mother's brother because the “wild khal” may carry a different family name.
The family name in general, being the mother's or father's family name is important. A man in search of a wife would look for certain family names that are within his social status. Also, if a person is considering marriage, sometimes if the girl or the boy is from a familiar family name, but the mother is not, the person would sometimes think twice about getting married to him/her or disregard the idea completely.
Family names as you can see are very important to the Kuwaiti culture. Kuwaiti people tend to divide themselves in several categories. There are the "Pure" "original" Kuwaitis who were the first settlers in Kuwait during the late 18th century, and the Kuwaitis who immigrated after that. The first settlers see themselves as the REAL Kuwaitis, and marriage outside their families and tribes is something that should not be considered. Kuwait is a tribal society and great emphasis is put on the tribes and family names. I believe that the family names are important to a certain extent. By the family name, we are able to determine the person’s tribe and origin. To Kuwaitis, the family name DEFINES the person; the family name is what makes the person Kuwaiti not the citizenship. No matter who receives the citizenship, if he is not from any of the Kuwaiti families, he will be considered a foreigner in the eyes of the society.
Because Kuwait is a society based on family names, giving the citizenship for children from a non Kuwaiti man is a very sensitive matter. Those children will carry his family name, and being Kuwaiti, they will add their family name into the Kuwaiti families’ category.
Maryam Al-Nasrallah 7182
In Kuwait, ones citizenship is determined by the fathers nationality as they carry the family name and determines their children nationality whereas a mother does not. For example if a father is Kuwaiti and marries a non Kuwaiti his children are considered Kuwaitis, however, when it the other way round if a Kuwaiti woman marries a non Kuwaiti her children will not be considered Kuwaitis, which I do not see the logic in it, a family name is different than nationality, it is unfair that the children do not get any rights because their father is non Kuwaiti, but unfortunately thats how things are here. In Kuwait many view and often judge others according to ones family name its very unfortunate how people see things that way as it does not mean one belongs to a good family they are good person. I personally do not agree with this mentality as i believe that everyone is born equal you may think your superior due to your family name or nationality but the reality is once you die your nothing and your just like everybody else.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the Islamic laws, the children carry the last name and the citizenship of their father. If the father is Kuwaiti, then the kids automatically get the same citizenship, no matter what nationality their mother carries. In some cases if the woman is Kuwaiti and the husband is Lebanese then the kids get the Lebanese nationality.
ReplyDeleteAs the children carry the name of the father, the father’s side automatically becomes more important. Also because the father is the authoritative figure in the family, he is the one that supports the family financially and makes the decision in the house. It is always known that the father’s side is given much more value and importance than the mother’s side. The common reasons are because the kids have their father’s last name and their citizenship is attained from their father.
Here in Kuwait national identity is given through family name, if you ask any the citizens for their last name, we easily come to know if they are originally Kuwaiti or not. By original Kuwaiti I mean, if their roots are from Kuwait, There are many Kuwaiti families that reside here are not originally Kuwaiti but are either from Iran, Saudi Arabia or other Arab countries. Families in Kuwait believe in the national identity and so do I to some extent. Unusually families here in Kuwait set marriages within their tribes, or families of their own social status. The families that are originally Kuwaiti would want their kids to get married to the family who also are originally Kuwaiti. It depends on the families and the mentality they carry. But living in the society, I can see how important it is to us the Arabs to make sure that we marry within the boundaries of our traditions. Especially girls are expected to choose or marry someone within the family or someone who carries the equal family status in the society. Girls are not preferred to marry outside the clan. This is a tradition that has been going on for a very long time and is difficult to change or asked questions about. I feel people have set minds about national identity. It’s the family name that speaks.
Sarah Juma
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Everybody is born into a family, Simply a family could represent a society in many places. Such as the Middle East, and in Kuwait. Families are very important in Kuwait, one of the major factors of family importance in Kuwait is that we have been taught many things in my opinion about our ancestors which are part of our hertiage. By that we learn how to appreciate what we have and what we have learned, w then pass these traditions on the next generation. In Kuwait,a persons citizenship is determined by the fathers nationality. Whereas, in the other hand, the mother does not determine the childrens nationality. For example if a father is Kuwaiti and marries a Kuwaiti or non Kuwaiti his children are considered Kuwaitis. However, when it comes to a Kuwaiti woman marries a non Kuwaiti her children will not be considered Kuwaitis, but are considered to whatever the fathers nationality.
ReplyDeleteMiddle East and Kuwait families depend mainly on the male character in the family which is the father, which is known as the family backbone. He is in charge of mostly everything. However the mother is known as a houswife and a care taker which consists in raising the children and taking care of the household.
Now a days families are trying to be the "perfect picture family" but on the inside they have so many problems that they refuse to talk about. The reason because the Kuwaiti families are very secretive and over protective about the honor of the family. This answers why Kuwaiti and in addition to the Middle Eastern family are resistant towards improvement.
All countries “be it secular of a theoretic state” have some criteria on which citizenship and national belonging is built upon, and our country is no different. The only difference is Kuwaiti government seems to be keen on contradicting itself. In our country one is considered a Kuwait citizen if 1) s/he is born to a Kuwait father. 2) has ancestors who resided in Kuwait prior to 1921. 3) is born in Kuwait to unknown parents. So the government will grant the citizenship on the on the basis on bloodline of father’s, history of residence or national belonging. Sounds good so far. However, ironically if you come from a Kuwaiti mother and non-kuwaiti father then you are a foreigner.
ReplyDeleteThe Kuwait society has reasoning behind this. Children belong to the father line of decent. This rationale has both a religious and traditional connotation. In the Shria law the children carry the father last name (despite having equal rights and responsibilities towards them). So the slafist took upon themselves again to explain decipher our religion to us. They said that this means that children belong to the father, they inherit the “religion”, the name and of course the nationality. First let me make clear that there is no such thing as “inheriting religion” in Islam. Second in the prophet days “that they are calling to go back to” people identified themselves by the father line but took pride in their mother lineage as well.
As for the traditional aspect of it is more complicated. In Kuwait the family name carries a lot of weight. Legally al Kuwaitis are treated equally. However in a closer look, one can see that in a “relatively” tribal society such as Kuwait, the name will enclose more than just letters. The family name is what determines one “origin” and sect and class and new addition to those Kuwait families is seen as threat that will endanger the texture of the Kuwaiti community. On those grounds most Kuwaitis were apprehensive about “nationalizing” the children of Kuwait mothers.
Of course I find this law stupid and sexiest. If Kuwaitis are so worried about changing their precious community, then why are they nationalizing Egyptian, Syrian and American women marrying Kuwait men? If more ridiculous id that if Kuwaiti mothers married non-Kuwaitis then the children will gain nationality as soon as the father dies or divorces the mother. You know, because despite having the crime of carrying a non-Kuwait name and having being only 50% Kuwait will change automatically as soon “foreign dad” is out of the picture. Our government officials have of course based that law on their observation of the growing sense of nationalism in children that magically only appears when their Lebanese father is away.
The sense of belonging to a country is not determined by the blood chromosomes, nor is it limited by certain family names. Children are not more of their father than mothers as they claim “unless he managed to get himself pregnant”. Mothers in our society are seen are caretaker and are suppose to offer emotional support, however her children must take the father’s permission before making major decisions. Comforting to know; nevertheless that young women and men are speaking out against that law and realizing that what makes Kuwaitis goes deeper that.
Kuwait follows the Patrileneal society where men have been leading the social order for a long time, and the system where national individuality is given based on their fathers name. Historically Kuwait is a tribal state where families get married within their tribes. Since Kuwait is a closed small society, giving levels of citizenship within the Kuwaiti population is important according to welfare of the society .The surname of families is recognized eminently within the society where one can easily distinguish which families belong to the pure original Kuwaiti breed and which have migrated and hence adapted the national identity of being a citizen of Kuwait.
ReplyDeleteThe futurists, economists and socialists however have their own theories about Kuwaiti society changing after a specific period of time where globalization will come handier within the culture and the women start playing an even vital role within the society. This is then where these rules and regulations might not carry much value in the near future. Women are already stepping up the ladder and becoming active in various ways (for instance, 3 women have been elected in the parliament filled with male dominance, and women being able to vote in Kuwait).
Overall in my opinion, Kuwait has based the eccentricity of once nationality recognized by the name of their father and it has been like this since forever, so why change it? Personally, I feel choice could be given in the near future whether he / she wants to be associated with the matrilineal or patrileaneal side. Other than that, this classification sounds appropriate. Clearly , I am not implying that mothers don’t play an imperative role, in fact, they are the ones that embrace the family together but when we look at the Islamic / Arabic culture and tradition , there doesn’t seem much point to brake it by revolutionise the entire process.
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Belonging to a specific home is important, but what determines this membership? Is it blood or birth in this country or the membership will comes after living in this country for a specific period or by marrying a citizen you will be a citizen too? Countries differed in the answer to this question. several countries have established some rules for granting citizenship to non-citizens, some of those countries have established a limited period the persons must live on its soil to obtain the citizenship, moreover other countries allowed non-citizen to obtain citizenship if they are married to a citizen, and other countries had put a law granting citizenship to any child born on its soil, but All countries agreed that nationality is essentially dependents on the blood.
ReplyDeleteTo become a Kuwaiti citizen you have to be a son of a Kuwaiti citizen and not from a foreigner, even if the mother was of another nationality. If the mother is a Kuwaiti citizen and she is married to a non-Kuwaiti man, the sons do not get citizenship, but in case of divorce is granted citizenship, depending on the nationality of the mother. So citizenship in Kuwait depends on blood.
Kuwaiti society is a patriarchal society that follows the nationality of the father, children follows their father nationality not their mother, so if the mother is non-Kuwaiti that will not effect on the children. If a man gets married to a non-Kuwaiti woman she will be a citizen because she follows her husband nationality, but if a Kuwaiti woman gets married to non-Kuwaiti he will not have the Kuwaiti nationality. As I said before children follows their father's nationality, but they can have the Kuwaiti nationality in one case, if their parents get divorce.
Just for being a Kuwaiti citizen you will be provided with free medical care, free education, marriage loan, a house and a job. Family name is very important in the Kuwaiti community; it will provide you with the access to particular social class, and it is mater is you have a specific family name because people in Kuwait doesn't looks for who you are but who is your family and which social class does you presents.
Some people may see that the policy of the Kuwaiti government is not fair, but it is fair for me because it is natural to get excited over his father more than mother because as we know that fathers is ideal for us, if we gave the non-Kuwaiti a Kuwaiti nationality, his loyalty may remain for the nationality of his origin and if there is a war between Kuwait and the country of his father it is possible that he will stand on the side of a hostile state. I also believe that this resolution is not only a political but the Kuwaiti government had conceder the importance of the family name. In my opinion, Kuwait nationality must be based on the blood only for the benefit of the country, the society and for the person also.
Al-Anoud Al-Najem
In kuwait, like many other arab countries, societies are patrilineal. Children take after their fathers. This means that if the dad is muslim the child automatically becomes muslim. If the father is of Kuwaiti citizenship, the child in turn is Kuwaiti.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the father's side is not more important than the mother's. I think it depends on the specific family. The father's side is used to trace people from one generation to the next but it does not necessarily mean they are more important.
In the past, marrying into a good family was much more important than now. Presently, families are extremely more lenient then how they used to be. Families of a certain class and origin did not accept their children to marry outside of their class.
It was easier for the men to marry from a lower class as their wife and children would follow and take his name, but for a child it was virtually impossible.
The most original the family is, that is to say the more they originated from kuwait, the more the sense of national identity. Families that moved to kuwait recently are the ones that arent always married into whereas families that have been here for generations are the ones that are sought after.
I somewhat agree. To a certain degree at least. Because when you marry to far away from the family's social status and class there will no doubt be clashes between both sides which is not really healthy for either.
Fajer Al-Sabah
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To acquire Kuwaiti citizenship there is a set criteria that must be met. The Father must be Kuwaiti in order for the children to become Kuwaiti citizens too. In my case, my dad is Kuwaiti and my mom is Finnish, so I am Kuwaiti. In contrast, I have a friend who is half Kuwaiti just like me; however his dad is Iranian so he is not considered Kuwaiti according to the Government. It does seem unfair if you look at it from an outsider’s perspective, although it does have some sort of rationality behind it, as some of my class mates have stated. Another interesting twist to this matter is that a foreign woman who is married to a Kuwaiti man for a certain period of time is eligible to apply for Kuwaiti citizenship, but this does not work the other way round (as far as i know). In my experience with mixed nationalities, the children usually tend to take after their fathers nationality rather than their mothers, although this is not always the case. I do see it as unfair for kids with Kuwaiti mothers, because it seems like the government does not accept them as one of them, so how can they expect these kids to remain loyal to the country when they are not even recognized as part of it.
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